Ep72- RESET Your Life Using Your Breath with The Healing Couple

The practice of breathwork has been gaining attention worldwide due to its profound transformative potential. In the latest episode of our podcast, we had the privilege of discussing this empowering technique with Dr. Corey and Jess, also known as the Healing Couple. Their journey from skepticism to becoming certified breathwork teachers is truly inspiring. They bring a unique blend of science and spirituality into their teachings, creating a safe space for individuals to release trapped emotions and rediscover their authentic selves.

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Breathwork, as discussed in this episode, is more than just a relaxation technique. It's a holistic healing journey that goes beyond simple relaxation. The Healing Couple shared their experiences, shedding light on how breathwork can be as potent as plant medicine, without the need for substances. They highlighted the Reset Breath Work Method, which combines different techniques to guide participants on a journey of self-discovery and healing.


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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:04

Hi, my name is Bridget and this is my podcast, Wake Up and Thrive. My intention for this space is to help women around the world live more awake, aligned and truly alive. I believe wholeheartedly that we are designed to live, feel and experience the full range that life has to offer, and in doing so, we can live fully turned on in all areas. My story began with sobriety and has since been an initiation into rediscovering parts of myself that I forgot about or had abandoned. Learning to reclaim all of who I am has been the greatest gift of living awake, and together we will go on a journey of helping you to do the same you can expect to learn practical tools to help you connect deeper to yourself, your purpose and those in your life. All you need is an open heart and an open mind. So if you're ready, it's time. It's time to Wake Up and Thrive. All right, Hello and welcome back to this week's episode on Wake Up and Thrive.

Speaker 1: 1:02

My name is Bridget and I'm your host. I have a really special interview. It's actually a double interview. Today. You all have heard me talk about breathwork and how I have been getting certified to teach the reset breathwork method, and I am so lit up about this modality because it truly has been an incredible tool for me to really feel present and grounded in my body and that is something we talk about a lot on here and also, as someone who is sober, it is honestly the most natural high I have ever felt. So it's incredible. So every journey with the reset has been different for me, yet equally transformative, and I just feel really honored. Today. I have my mentors and my teachers here today to share more about this tool. It's something I had a hard time finding the words to describe, so I invited them to come on and really explain it a lot more eloquently. So welcome Dr Corey and Jess, otherwise known as the healing couple. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 2:01

Bridget for having us. We are so excited to be here and really dive deep in this conversation.

Speaker 1: 2:06

Absolutely, and I'm going to let both of them introduce themselves, but I will also drop a formal bio in my show notes.

Speaker 1: 2:14

But I want to read something that you said, because, as someone who's been in your world for a little bit now, I can really attest to this.

Speaker 1: 2:21

So they said we are the bridge between science and spirituality, masculine and feminine, and a practical and practical and energetic. You can count on us for a no BS approach to personal growth, to guide you to the deepest depths while also having fun, and to empower you to take real action and radically transform, and I feel like that captures your essence. I know you do so much more about that. Just, they are one of the most authentic couples I have ever met. They walk the walk and it's just really an honor to be underneath them and learning from them and then to have them here to share all of this with you guys. So, so grateful, and I will piggyback it or ping pong back it to you guys or whatever. Pat, pass the, pass the mic to you guys. I would love you both to maybe briefly explain who you are in your own words and also because I don't even know the answer to this how did you guys come to get into this breathwork world.

Speaker 3: 3:16

Hmm, yeah, shall I start I should start All right, I'm Dr Corey Ostrut.

Speaker 3: 3:21

I'm a naturopathic physician, board certified family practitioner in California.

Speaker 3: 3:26

But what really I think you know who I am is I really find that I am a gray goose, an outsider. Every time that I find myself within a circle, I find myself on the periphery, and so what I mean by that is I've gone my entire life really thinking that I didn't fit in, and I find that, you know, for people where maybe you're resonating with that message a little bit, is you just haven't found your group yet. And sometimes, sometimes you need to create the community around you. And so for me, feeling those feelings over the decades, I really come to realize like, if you desire it, create it. And so over the years, me and Jessica have been able to create you know the reset breathwork method a beautiful community here in San Diego and across the world, and really we bring people together so that they can be in community and start to heal themselves. We're not gurus, you know, we're not magicians, but we really are operators and facilitators that put people in the best position for their nervous system to heal itself.

Speaker 3: 4:33

And sometimes that means going back through your past trauma, sometimes that means addressing the elephant in the room, but also sometimes that means celebrating your day himself before it's actually happened, and so, yeah, we're a mixed bag, we're like a mixture of masculine and feminine, but really I think what I try to bring to the table is the masculine push. If there's a metaphor for me, I am the hammer. Jessica, what are you? I'm the heart, she's the heart.

Speaker 1: 5:00

I love that. I hope that's your motto that you share with other people. It's great yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Yeah, I mean, that's really what it is. It's hammer in the heart and with me I really I, as part of this deal with the healing couple, I am really the heart. I just I see people. I want people in my presence to feel like they're actually being seen for who they are. I want to be a permission slip, especially for other women, to just be all of them and to feel like that is that that is valid. And I also have seen with us guiding thousands and thousands of clients through breathwork is that breath is the way to bring all of you back to you.

Speaker 2: 5:49

There's a lot of parts of us that we push out or we ignore or we suppress, and the breath just brings us back to the wholeness of our being. And that is really my. Our main mission on the planet is helping people return to themselves, really one breath at a time, and it wasn't always this way. As far as like and I love to we get. I know you're also asking like how did you come about breathwork? You know I don't feel that I found breathwork. Breathwork found me. Okay, I grew up and we both grew up in the Midwest. I grew up in Wisconsin, corey grew up in Minnesota. We are from fairly small towns where, and especially years ago, breathwork was was not talked about, not even yoga or meditation.

Speaker 2: 6:45

No, these are not common modalities or practices or parts of conversations. And here's the things like for me. Growing up in the Midwest, I was always like I'm like looking around and I always knew deep down there was something more for me.

Speaker 2: 7:04

I think I'm sure a lot of people in your community can relate where it's just like you know there's something more and you maybe you look around or you hear the conversations people are having and people are comfortable kind of staying the same as the same conversations, and I got bored of that really early on, but I also didn't know what else there was Right. So it's this weird place of like being in, like, okay, I know there's more, but I don't know what that more is. And it wasn't until fast forward, when I was in college at the University of Wisconsin and they were offering breathwork, yoga, meditation workshops for students. They were actually doing studies on these workshops and the effectiveness of these practices, especially for college students.

Speaker 2: 7:47

And you can imagine, like you know how much like stress, anxiety, pressure, you know, hard work, all of that is you know is, is is involved, and so how can these practices help to heal the nervous system, to be able to calm the mind and so on? And so my friends actually started participating in these, in these workshops they were like five day workshops, was like over a weekend, and I remember seeing like just how like happy they were, like just like their energy and their mood, just like I was just like wow, like they just they're the exuding this ease and I'm like I'm over here stressing and I've got, like it's like very, you know, a lot of sleepless nights, a lot of, you know, all nighters, and to the point where it impacted my health and I started having grand mal seizures and I got diagnosed epilepsy my freshman year of college.

Speaker 3: 8:36

You just got a Facebook message from Facebook. You want to share that. It was really crazy.

Speaker 2: 8:41

Yeah, just last week.

Speaker 3: 8:43

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:44

You know, in Facebook, like it's like Facebook memories it pops up like five years ago, like honest right.

Speaker 2: 8:49

I said 14 years ago on this day, I wrote, and I wrote like a status update on Facebook. I was, I just came back from the hospital after having my first seizure. When I say first, I didn't realize it was me, the first of quite a few, I thought it was a fluke and I was just reading this, you know, I was like, oh my gosh. You know, 14 years ago, I was just coming back, you know, back to my dorm room from the hospital and I had. I was just so confused I didn't know what was happening in my mind and in my body and I didn't realize it was actually a result of my lifestyle, it was the result of sleep deprivation, it was a result of stress, but I didn't know any outlets, right, I didn't have any tools to to, to to deal with that.

Speaker 3: 9:36

Yeah, at the end you were kind of like well, I hope this doesn't happen again.

Speaker 1: 9:40

Yeah, were you guys dating at the same time at the time? Oh, okay, okay. But yeah, I mean living in college in this country, like that. Everybody is walking around as a stress and that's just the norm.

Speaker 2: 9:49

So, yeah, that's wow Right, exactly it was. It was the norm. I was like this is just normal, right.

Speaker 1: 9:56

So did you attend one of those yoga and meditation? Oh, I did.

Speaker 2: 10:00

I had a lot of friends telling me like you got to try to get your, and I think they saw how stressed I was right, yeah, yeah, you really use this. And I was like, no, I don't have time for that, Right. And it wasn't until fast forward three years later, after friends telling me about telling me about it, that I was like you know what, clearly, what I'm doing isn't working and there's got to be another way. So I might as well just try this thing. I had no idea what I was getting into and I'll say day one try and breath, work. I was super in my head, but I will never forget people sharing their experiences at the end of the journey. And people were sharing just like how they were experiencing all of this, like freedom and these visions and bliss and calm, and I was like, wow, well, clearly there's something to this. It's not just this weird thing that we're doing. Like in a dark room, 40 of us, 40 stranders lying, down right.

Speaker 2: 10:55

There's something, there's got to be something too. So then I came back the second day because I was kind of like screw this, like I got to go study, I want that, oh right. But I was like as far as just like, okay, well, I didn't really get much out of it, right, like, right. So I got back the second day and I actually decided to see, you know, I chose to go all in. And that's when my whole life changed and I, halfway through, I just started, I'll never forget. I just started laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing, and I heard a voice that said Jess, this is what true happiness feels like. Oh, wow. And it was just full body joy. And I was hooked after them, because that was the first time that I realized that happiness actually comes from within. Maybe you hear that or you read inspiration to feel that is like a whole another ballgame.

Speaker 1: 11:51

And would you say that was like the first time in your life, or was this like a remembering? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2: 11:57

Yeah. It was yeah, yeah, I mean I want to say that it was a remembering, but I really couldn't actually remember with my conscious mind, like when I felt that because everything from a very young age, like my happiness, all of it was dependent on external validation and approval, and so to experience that just from within myself was it was revolutionary. Yeah, you said, well, if I can feel this like I want as many people on the planet to feel this too.

Speaker 1: 12:28

Oh, and I relate to I mean I do not have the medical story that you have Like that's an amazing story and I've heard bits and pieces in the facilitator training but not I haven't heard it in the entirety. So it's interesting to me that for three years you were in the medical world probably being treated for grand mal seizures, and I'm sure hopefully they mentioned lifestyle changes that you could do but that you actually, oh, they didn't. They're about shaking their heads.

Speaker 3: 12:53

No, no, she got left that.

Speaker 1: 12:56

Yeah, I mean to see that three years later for you ultimately coming back to something that you had all along which was your breath, which is the wildest part of kind of hearing that full circle. So I love that. Thank you for sharing that part of your story, jess and Corey. One of the reasons, speaking of like Western medicines, one of the reasons I chose to work under the healing couple because I had tried breath work before meeting you guys and trying to reset breath work and I also loved it and was like I really need to do this. But I really trusted Dr Corey and Jess because Dr Corey's background is actually a naturopathic medicine and so for you, can you tell me how you even got into breath work? Like, how did you find it?

Speaker 3: 13:37

Yeah, so my background was actually in plant medicine, so medical school I decided to go and do something crazy jump off into the Amazon, and one of my good friends and mentors at the time, dr Joe Tufour, was the owner and part operator of a Amazon.

Speaker 3: 13:54

I was good clinic and, if you're not familiar with I, was good.

Speaker 3: 13:57

It's just the ancient root that they extract the sap out of and it helps the body release a substance known as DMT, and DMT is considered to be the spirit molecule, like essentially the creme de la creme, the most potent psychedelic known to man.

Speaker 3: 14:13

And what's interesting about DMT is that it's an endogenous substance in the body, meaning that we produce it in every single one of ourselves. But there isn't a known methodology outside of these types of psychedelic ceremonies where you can actually create a high enough amount to have a spiritual experience. So I did something crazy going there and spent about a month there and transform my life, had many incredible visions that have now manifested today, but it was really rooted in the more biochemical, like taking a substance and seeing how it reacts within your body kind of approach. And so that's how I was like really growing spiritually, and so came back to Arizona, did quite a few ceremonies there, got connected with the community and then happenstance started to date Jessica through a mutual friend. So her cousin was my good friend and that's how we met and we were doing long distance.

Speaker 3: 15:12

So she was in San Diego, I was in Phoenix and we were doing the whole like phone tag late at night stuff where we'd even fall asleep and then wake up the next day and be like, oh, eight hours Probably not too good for our brains, but that's what we're doing. And she was getting certified as a yoga teacher and the yoga teacher training that she was taking was pretty holistic, so they did a lot of other things than just learn poses and learn how to teach, and one of those things was these deep, long breathwork, transformational journeys, and so she was in that part, that section of her training, and we would be late, late at night, and she's like, oh my God, like I turned into an eagle and was, you know, flying over this mountain. And I have to admit, Bridget, that I was really questioning whether the relationship.

Speaker 3: 16:04

Yeah, relationship, because I was like either she's crazy or this stuff is actually happening for her. I don't understand what's going on in the body. Yeah me, because your.

Speaker 1: 16:18

your initial go to is what are you on? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 16:22

Yeah, yeah, that was my initial go to. So fast forward. She had an opportunity to step into a teacher training and, mind you, I had a lot of practice with Pranayama techniques you know, certain trainings within Hinduism and all sorts of stuff and these long form journeys and so I decided I was like, hey, you got, you're going to get certified. I'll go get certified, I'll see what this is all about this weekend training, so dove in in the session, gave it my all pop back up deer and headlights like what the absolute lead happened, because this was as powerful, if not 1000 times more powerful, than my plant medicine, medicine.

Speaker 1: 17:04

So you're very first time trying it. You became a. You, you became certified as well. You're like I have to, I'm just going to go all in.

Speaker 2: 17:11

Like one of those simple weekend trainings were like 90% of people that do it don't become an actual right, but yeah, I want to give you, give you massive credit for that, because, like that, the thing to know about Corey is that if you give him something and he's passionate, he will go all in like full, full force. It's like the hammer, you know. It's like, hey, I'm going to, I'm also going to teach this thing and I'm going to myself. So that. I love that.

Speaker 3: 17:42

Yeah, yeah. So, bridget, you nailed it where I was just like huh, so this is like plant medicine without the plant medicine. What's going on here? And then that really started my journey and discovering more about what is going on physiological, within this body and in your body when you do these types of long form.

Speaker 1: 17:59

Yeah, and I want to jump into that. I want to jump into what it is. But a comment on the breath, the plant medicine, because so much of my community honestly is new to all of this. I always use the term woo, woo and like it's just, it's very, I seem to, to attract a lot of people that are just now getting into the work, which is really cool. On my on my hand, I love it, but it's also my background, being raised in the church and being raised as a Catholic Irish family and it's some, it seems.

Speaker 1: 18:27

I had heard about plant medicine and had been so interested in it because the more I got into this work I really believed in it. But I was so scared I didn't. I didn't want to. I didn't want to embark again on a substance. I didn't want to rely on a substance. I didn't want to go down that path. So when I experienced breath work, it did the exact same thing that everyone told me plant medicine did. I have never done it before but I had that.

Speaker 1: 18:49

A similar experience that you're sort of describing of, just like mine has always been just visualizations, like very clear visualizations. I've never had and I told you this in the in the training. I've never had this major release but I have laughed, which is interesting that you bring that up. I don't think I ever related that to a release, but I have had just it is. It is just an incredible feeling in my body and the visualizations that I do get paired with the guide like you guys are very good at pairing it with the visualization which I think makes the reset breath work, from what I know, very unique. It allows me to bypass my monkey mind. It allows me to really be. I've never been so present in my life when I'm doing these journeys, so it's just a very, very cool experience.

Speaker 1: 19:36

It's very hard to explain to people, so if one of you guys wants to take it, I would love like just to kind of give a brief overview. There's a lot of ins and outs and obviously you guys have equipped me to teach them. If they come to do a breath work journey, I'll teach them what to expect. So if you could give a brief overview of sort of what is the reset breath work method and how is it different than, like you said, pranayama or? I know some of my listeners have done Wim Hof and every time I say, have you done breath work, they go yeah, I do it all the time. I'm like there's no way. You do it all the time, there's no way. So if you could give a brief overview specifically of your method that you teach and then how it sort of differs from those other breath work, so, yeah, with breath work getting more and more popular these days, I find that when people say breath work it can mean so many different things.

Speaker 3: 20:27

Yeah, so let's just kind of talk about the umbrella of breath work and all the different techniques that sit underneath it. Very simply put, there are more simple relaxation techniques that just get you more calm. Those are more like what are called Pranayama techniques. They're really short, whether it's square breathing, box breathing you know 784, like whatever, whatever little technique that you can do in that moment. That's, that's like a short form technique. It's just to get you a little bit more present, a little bit more calm, a little bit more back into your body. And then you start to go towards more long form or maybe even physiologic type of breath work techniques, like the Wim Hof.

Speaker 3: 21:04

So you mentioned really deep, intense breathing, but for a very short period of time, and usually the benefits are more physiologic, meaning like you increase your VO2 max, like your lung capacity, you maybe get some cataclysm means or just endorphins that dump into your system and usually it's paired with like hot, cold therapy and that kind of stuff. And then you on the other end of the spectrum, which is where we're really at, is like long form conscious connected, three part breathing techniques. And so we didn't develop the conscious connected three part breathing techniques, but we developed a lot of things that are around it, because what we noticed is, you know, especially with, like you know, three part conscious connected, really coming into fruition around, like the 1950s with Christina and Stanislaw F graph funny enough, another couple, another physician and yoga teacher.

Speaker 1: 21:58

I always found that really.

Speaker 3: 22:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah know that at the time, and so they developed it in the 1950s and the excellent Institute, but really their technique was breathe in and out of your mouth and so you know whatever you want for as long as you want, and it was really focused more on, definitely, trauma release, but it was more focused on like one to one application and there wasn't a lot of like group aspect. And so for us, experiencing some of that, getting trained under that, we realize that, you know, unless you have a very good facilitator, things can get kind of hairy because people can kind of do whatever. And so for us, we really have created a refined technique where it is the conscious, connected three part breathing, where you're breathing into your belly, then up into your chest and out, and you're breathing in a hip, not cyclical pattern, so that you can get out of your head and back into your heart. And we've accompanied it with lots of things, like you said visualizations, very intentional playlist, affirmations and take people along a journey, yeah, yeah. So at the end they can feel like, okay, I may have not physically moved, but I feel like I have energetically, emotionally, spiritually moved from point A to point B and I think it's really playing on these aspects of people getting back to like the hero heroin journey, right Like going through something, so that you can feel like you've accomplished something and come out the other side.

Speaker 3: 23:26

And there's something very symbolic about it but also very neurologic about it, because we found the best way to do that is not through simple, gentle breathing techniques which are wonderful, and we don't put on any type of breathing techniques but to actually be confident enough as a facilitator to look at the sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight nervous system, and to ramp that up intentionally in a safe space so that people can overcome their past, they can overcome those emotions that they've been playing on loop over and over and over again.

Speaker 3: 24:02

Because how our body works, how our five senses, how we interact with the world works, is it always acclimates to the strongest stimulus. So if your past, your trauma, has had some pretty strong responses and you just feel like you're living the same life over and over and over again, really one of the ways we found to help overcome that is to create a stronger stimulus in a safe setting and then to do that over and over and over and over again until the brain nervous system rewires. Now you aren't a stressed out person. You don't identify as a stressed out person. Now, you aren't an anxious person because you don't identify it. So many people don't realize how much energy they put towards not being something.

Speaker 1: 24:41

Yes, I want to let that land.

Speaker 3: 24:43

Say it louder so many people spend so much neurological time and energy thinking about not being something. Yes, whether it's like not anxious, not depressed, I'm not a traumatized person. I mean like the litany and laundry list is so long and you, every single day, are unconsciously spending energy and neurological time holding that off. And so what me and Jessica are saying is hey, with the right facilitator in the right setting, if it feels good for you, take yourself to that place and overcome it.

Speaker 1: 25:17

Yes, and I want to share my experience based on what you just said, because you gave words to it and I think people listening might relate. A lot of people listening constantly come and say I'm anxious, I'm anxious. They identify with being anxious. For me, I used to panic about my panic. So if I started to feel panic and get like dizzy or get like a heart palpitation, like if I was starting to go into a panic attack, then I would think I'm stroking out or having a heart attack. And now that I know what I know it was just I had never felt those sensations. I was so disconnected from my body until it had gotten to a level 10 where I thought I was about to die. So the first breathwork I think it was at it was in my elementum training program. Dr Corey and Jess came in and led us through one and I had my got lobster claws, which is one of the side effects, and I remember starting to panic but I could hear Dr Corey say you are safe. He wasn't talking directly to me, but it felt like he was you are safe, everything's going to go back to normal, keep breathing.

Speaker 1: 26:20

And it was in that moment that I have never had a panic attack since I've never had it or, if I have, it has come up to maybe like a level two, and I've been able to move through it. I don't. It has never gotten to the point where I need to go to the ER and get my heart checked or do anything like that which I had been doing for years, thinking something was wrong. So it's it's.

Speaker 1: 26:40

There's something about connecting to the body in and maybe you, maybe you, can say this a little bit better but there's something about activating the sympathetic nervous system, which is what we do in a safe environment. So getting really ramped up and bringing your body to that state, but knowing that you're completely safe, to me is where I mean that that is probably the most profound experience I could explain that I have had is it's experiencing, you know, feeling my body, feeling all the sensations for the first time in a really long time and allowing it to be there, not needing to like have someone fix it or give me a medicine to fix it. I don't know if you can speak to that at all, but that was my experience.

Speaker 3: 27:19

Oh my gosh. Well, I didn't know, I didn't know that about your personal experience and the first time with breath work. That's incredible and that really just goes to show the power that your own breath has to heal yourself on that, on that level. But what I will say, just just yeah, in context, because a lot of people are like wait, what is, what are we talking about?

Speaker 1: 27:36

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3: 27:38

Yeah, so there's two parts of the nervous system. There's a parasympathetic and then there's a sympathetic division. And so parasympathetic is relax, digest, chill out like have a couple of coffee, slow down right.

Speaker 3: 27:50

And then the sympathetic nervous system is the fight or flight.

Speaker 3: 27:52

So it's what ramps you up, it's what gets you aware, it's what protects you from something that could possibly be damaging or harming.

Speaker 3: 28:00

So what has happened for most people and you kind of spoke to the anxiety piece of it is our anxiety. If you're somebody that's anxious, you build up that anxiety neurologically over time. It's like stacking. It's like neurologic stacking, one on top of the other, one on top of the other, and then you don't notice it, like you said very, very smartly, until it's like a 10 or until it's at like a hundred. What you probably didn't realize, bridget, is that, like, once you went to the doctor, got checked out or, like took some medication, you maybe went from like a 10 or a hundred to like a nine or like a nine and a half, and so most people are really riding around their life at that high neurological level and so doing small techniques that are more geared towards the parasympathetic nervous system is kind of like David and Goliath and like you're kind of like throwing pebbles at this, like Chinese wall. You know, if it's like the wall of China, it's like you're throwing pebbles at it.

Speaker 3: 29:00

Okay, you're going to maybe make a dent here and there and maybe, if you're consistent with it over five, 10, 15 years, you're going to see those changes, but do it in a safe setting.

Speaker 1: 29:20

Yes.

Speaker 3: 29:21

And then you're going to be held by a practitioner that knows what they're doing, so that you can get through it. On the other side, and really, what you're doing for your nervous system is you're allowing it to reset yes, that's why we call it the reset breathwork is you're ramping up your nervous system to a stimulus that's stronger than your past? Yes, and then there's a principle that you guys, really I would love for if you're writing it or remembering it right this in your notes app the most strong, strongest principle within the body is homeostasis. It's balance. Yeah, whether we're talking about lungs, blood, ph, neurochemistry, the body wants to be within balance.

Speaker 3: 29:59

And so if you stretch your nervous system, like you do intentionally during the reset breathwork method, you're going way to one end. So what's going to naturally happen? The body is going to try to pull it back. So one, yes, this breathwork, like you said, it's hard, it's challenging, right, but there's a reason for it, because once you've ramped yourself up, you've given it 100%. What's going to happen? Your body is going to physiologically go back into homeostasis and there is going to be such a strong what we call like a snapback effect, where you're going to feel more calm, more blissed out, more at peace, more just centered within your body than you've ever felt in your entire life, because of that principle of homeostasis.

Speaker 1: 30:40

Thank you for sharing that. I'm like sitting here shaking my head like you do, just feel it is a workout. It is like the longest form of breath I've ever done, but it is I mean, it's incredible when you're done like the ending of the song or the ending of our journey. I'm always like, can this just be like 10 more extra minutes? I could just like lay here forever. So I love that that was such a great explanation of why.

Speaker 1: 31:04

Because to me, pirr Pranayama like slow breathwork. I use it all the time. I use it more. I do use it before meditation. I use it more as a reactive, like I'm nervous or I'm overwhelmed, and to me, the reset has been such a proactive way for me to get into my body and really do what I think all breathwork aims to do in a way. In a way right, but it's in a really proactive way.

Speaker 1: 31:29

Like every time I've come to a journey, I've been feeling great, but then I leave and I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't. I thought I was feeling great. I feel amazing now. So it's just, it's incredible. It's incredible. But, corey, thank you for all of that explanation. I think that's incredibly helpful for my guests. Jess, I would love to hear from you Sort of if you could and both of you can sort of answer this if you want what would your top three like biggest shifts be? So we talked a lot about what happens in the journey, right, like when you're doing breathwork, you can feel incredible, you can see incredible visualizations and have clarity, you can feel bliss, you can release emotions. But overall, you've been doing this for years. What would you say have been the three biggest shifts in your life or your relationship since you started doing this modality?

Speaker 2: 32:17

Yeah, that's such a great question. It's changed my life in so many ways and I have to say, one of the biggest ways that didn't only just change my life but it actually saved my life was with epilepsy. So, like I shared, I was having grand mal seizures and a lot of it was due to high stress, anxiety, panic attacks and, just honestly, not taking care of myself and not sleeping well. And when you were sharing earlier like, well, I hope that when you were going to doctors and when you're going to neurologists, if they were talking about lifestyle shifts and I'm like over here shaking my head like no, they weren't. I mean, they're like, yeah, maybe like sleep and like, but here's a pill like that was there. That was their answer. So just take this pill, take it twice a day and you'll be good. Go on your merry way and just keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 1: 33:14

And seizure medicine has so many side effects. Right, yeah.

Speaker 3: 33:19

Yeah, these old, you know kids right.

Speaker 2: 33:21

Yeah, yeah. So. So for me, when I got into breath work and meditation, I was sharing with my daughter. I remember sharing with my daughter one of my checkups and I was like this is really been helping me. I've been feeling a lot more regulated and just like calm. And there were actually studies being done on my college campus about impacts of meditation on the brain, so they were.

Speaker 2: 33:50

You know, one top neuroscientist, richie Davidson, was looking at this, and so I thought let me bring this to my neurologist to like talk about this as a way to heal, like that these medications I'm taking aren't the only answer. And she just completely scoffed and laughed at me, and so I, you know, I kind of lost a little bit of hope there and I was like, okay, I guess this is just how it's going to be. But something that you said, bridget, just recently, really ranked true for me as well, is that, yeah, I might think I'm feeling good or I'm feeling great, but then you do breath work and you're like, wow, I can feel amazing. For many of us, we actually don't know how good we can feel. We just have, we all have whatever our baseline is for what we think is good.

Speaker 1: 34:44

Which is actually, like Dr Corey said, a nine and a half of anxiety, and that's just normal, that's yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:51

Right, and that was what it was for me as well. That was normal.

Speaker 1: 34:55

That's normal.

Speaker 2: 34:56

Looking back on my girl.

Speaker 1: 34:58

Well, unfortunately it is normal in today's world, but it doesn't have to be your norm. It doesn't have to be your norm and I just yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:07

Exactly. And so by having a consistent breath work practice and I emphasize the word consistent, because you can do breath work every once in a while and feel pretty good, but if you do it on a consistent basis, that's when your life can really change and that's when I start to notice results. As far as epilepsy, I'm not going to say breath work was the only thing, it was also cannabis and it was also alkaline water, so we have a specific water system that has really helped me heal as well. But a combination of those three things has allowed me now which I never thought I'd be able to say but now I am completely off my medication, that's. I am medication free, and I have been for about four or five years Wow, had a single grand mal seizure Wow. And if I were to go back and talk to my neurologist at UW Health, she would think I'm absolutely crazy and couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3: 36:01

And she found out that her boyfriend, who's also a doctor and medical license, was doing this. She would report me.

Speaker 1: 36:09

Can I please be there the first time she comes and tries breath work? Yes, wow, jess, wow, that's. I mean I work in the medical system. So that is unbelievable, unbelievable, so wow.

Speaker 2: 36:26

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 36:27

Yeah, so I know you asked me three, but that is really like the biggest one. So that was more on like a physical health, physical standpoint. Then also because I know that your mission is to help women those that are in relationship, marriages and really support the feminine with intimacy and trust and all of that. I just love what you're creating for your community and, on that note, breath work has really helped me make so many shifts within myself, connect to my feminine energy, connect to my heart, to allow myself to be all of me and to connect more deeply in my romantic relationship with Corey. That's awesome.

Speaker 2: 37:16

And up until this relationship I was kind of like a serial dater and I was just like I would connect with other men on like a very surface level, but like we couldn't go deep. And I would, I could sit here and point the finger at them, but also I wasn't willing to go deep within myself, to my emotions and connect to my body. And so what breath work did for me? Was it allowed me to open up to myself and actually trust myself again? Yes, because again I could point the finger and be like, oh, like, just men aren't trustworthy, and that was my story.

Speaker 3: 37:54

But like.

Speaker 2: 37:54

I can't trust other men and screw them right, but what was really happening was I wasn't trusting myself, and that was a really hard truth.

Speaker 1: 38:06

Yeah, and a truth that I think a lot of the women listening can relate to, because I think we walk around just with our closed heart and kind of relating it to breath work. It's like how can you open something that you can't even feel Like if you can't feel your heart, if you can't feel your essence like everyone? We say all these coachy terms but it's about your heart is from the neck below, it's in your body. So if you are disconnected from your body, you can't just try to open your heart with your mind. It doesn't work.

Speaker 2: 38:38

Exactly. And we want to feel these things like love, we want to feel connection, we want to feel present, we want to feel these emotions, but you can't actually feel those to the fullest unless you allow yourself to feel all the other stuff too. You've got to allow yourself to feel the sadness. You've got to allow yourself to feel the pain. I shoved the pain out and I thought, if I just ignore it, it'll just go away. And looking back, what I have learned, what I've learned, is that you cannot just store your pain away and think that that's just going to disappear, because the body knows.

Speaker 1: 39:17

And it will manifest in things like grand mal, seizures or other diseases, right Exactly.

Speaker 2: 39:24

Yeah, you can run away. We can only run for so long. Breathwork forced me to sit my ass down and there's no more running. Yeah, You've got to look at it, and we often say that breathwork is one of the greatest mirrors. If you have to look at yourself in the mirror and it can be hard to face off with that, I'm not going to sit here and say it's easy, Like breathwork, the sheath reset breathwork. It's going to be a challenge, but I can tell you that it is so worth it because it allowed me to open my heart and trust myself and therefore be able to connect with Kori in a way that I've never, ever experienced in any other relationship yeah, I actually allow myself to be seen and witnessed and allowed us to go much deeper than ever going in any relationship.

Speaker 2: 40:14

In the first two months, so many people were like even just strangers, Like how long have you guys been together? We were actually in New York City in an Uber and the Uber driver. We were chatting in this deep conversation with him and he looked back. He was like you two are just something about you guys, Like how long have you been together? And we were like guess, and he's like I don't know, like probably like five, six years, and we're like try five or six months. Really, Like I just would never have guessed that because of just like the love and the energy and I really I point to breathwork I love that.

Speaker 1: 40:50

I love that you brought up. My last podcast was all about intimacy and talking specifically about what you said like into me, you see, right, like really getting to know and feel yourself first and then being able to offer that. So such a beautiful reflection of how breathwork can play, play a part in not just your connection with yourself but in your connection with those around you, and I do really relate. So often I used to say I know I have a good husband, I know he loves me, but I don't feel it and I thought that was something he was doing, but it wasn't. It was a disconnection on my end. So breathwork is an incredible I can attest to it as well an incredible tool to just reconnect so that you can offer all of you to the person that you're in relationship with. Yeah, exactly Beautiful.

Speaker 2: 41:39

That's a thing that we're looking for, that we're searching for, that we really want. Yes, all that is actually inside of us, so it starts with you, so good.

Speaker 1: 41:50

So good. Yeah, corey, I don't know how you're going to follow that, but Wow, if there's any other major over the life again, not just in one journey, but what would you say that breathwork has really helped you do? And just to sort of recap, I love to recap for my guests. Jess really said with our relationships, trust and then anxiety. Obviously we had the physical grand mal, seizures, but really it was that anxiety and stress that got relieved. So what about for you?

Speaker 3: 42:21

Man. For me it's the emotion of anger. Ooh, definitely just speak until the men here or anybody that want to listen to. This is that I think, just in society's terms, men commit most of the violence Men commit and most of the prisons. Men do most of the war. We're talking about Ukraine, middle East, palestine, and so it's such an easy access emotion for men, I think.

Speaker 3: 42:51

But for me, especially early on in our relationship, it's so easy to hide the emotion of anger and cover it up. But I think as our relationship started to progress, my anger started to bubble through and it was creating a lot of conflict within me and Jessica's relationship, because she knew that that wasn't truly who I was and she knew that there were tendrils and connection points of my anger to past masculine presences in my life, whether it's my father or past partners or whatever, and so anger was becoming more and more prominent in my life and we can talk about where that comes from. But the biggest breakthrough that I had around anger was that I realized as easy as it was for me to access that anger. It actually was not. It wasn't a primary emotion, it was actually a secondary emotion for me and I will push back on any mail that's in my presence where they're saying I'm angry about this and da-da-da-da-da-da and so angry and just releasing that anger. And it's like I think anger gets to be released, but usually there's another underlying primary emotion underneath that.

Speaker 1: 44:11

Like.

Speaker 3: 44:12

Me. It was some sadness. It was some deep sadness. Deep sadness about not connecting with my father in the way that I want to, not connecting with my grandfather in the way that I wanted to, and realizing that, while I had missed out on some significant opportunities about connecting with men in my life, that I get to release my anger through my sadness. I get to release my anger through another primary emotion and when I started to do that, the anger started to dissipate. Where I was like a 10 out of 10 dog angry. I could go from zero to 10. Now it's like a five, now it's like a four, now it's like a three, now it's like a two, Now it's like a one. And so, yeah, for me or for any men listening to this, you're noticing that you're angry, or you're consistently angry all the time, or it's so easy for you to go to a 10 with your anger. Really ask yourself the question is my anger right now? Is it the primary emotion?

Speaker 3: 45:16

Is that actually what I'm feeling, or is my anger covering something up for another emotion or another substance underneath that?

Speaker 3: 45:25

that actually is primary, and I think for most men it is because most men they're hurting right now. Yeah, hey, we've been an easy time for men or women, but I think right now, where the pendulum has swung, men are really suffering. It's hard to be a strong, confident in your masculine man right now because of going on in society, and so I think a lot of men are grasping at emotions that don't actually serve them. Yes, anger does not serve you long term. Anger, I think in the short term, if you got to get something out or like vocalize something or absolutely, but I'm talking about like chronic, long term angry.

Speaker 1: 46:06

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 46:06

So breathwork was an incredible way to release that in a safe way. Yes, that didn't impact Jessica anymore. So one thing that you would want to know during breathwork is like we allow you to vocalize, scream, kick, shout, get it out, make primal noises, get out that excess energy to really see what's underneath. And the men that we've worked with, especially the couples work that we've done. It's so funny because most often the women will come in and do a private with us.

Speaker 3: 46:34

And then like telling their man, they're like yo, you got to do this. It's amazing All these things happen. And then I oh yeah.

Speaker 3: 46:42

And eventually they'll come into a couple of sessions with us. So then they'll come in. This really amazing thing happens, bridget, which is you'd think that, as they're laying down in front of us and they're breathing and they're going through their experiences, you'd think that, like the female, the feminine energy, what we want to call it like, she would be really going for it, but what ends up actually happening is the man actually goes for it. A woman holds space for that man to have that transformational experience.

Speaker 1: 47:12

Yes.

Speaker 3: 47:14

Usually what happens in the beginning is anger shows up Like F this, screw this, what do I need to be here? This is weird, yep. But then when you coach them to the point where they're actually going for it, then all the emotion comes out.

Speaker 1: 47:28

So I just had a gentleman in my group practice class. That was his exact experience. He had fear. He described that underneath the anger was fear and he got up from the session and just bald, he just completely, completely bald.

Speaker 1: 47:44

And, dr Corey, I'm so glad that it is mostly women that listen and most of these women are married and I will say the only other male guest I've ever had on the show has been my husband and he has not tried breath work. So if you can write prescriptions, I would like to write a prescription for him to try. But I think what you just touched on is huge. I mean, it's so big, especially now, but it's so big. It's so big on so many different levels From a personal standpoint.

Speaker 1: 48:10

I know so many men in my life that that's their go-to. So to be able to give them permission to really just address and feel. And my favorite part is you don't have to know, like you did know why, where the sadness came from. You seem to have at least a correlation to where that sort of stem from, but in reset breath work you don't actually have to know where it's coming from, which I think happened to the guest I was just mentioning and I don't know if you want to speak to that, but for me, a lot of people are scared to do this work because they can't relive it, they can't tell the story again, they can't think about it again, and that's my favorite part about this modality is you don't have to.

Speaker 3: 48:50

Yeah, that's one of the favorite things that we say is, like, you know, especially when people come to us and they're talking and almost like reliving their experience over and over again and feeling like they have to tell us to justify it, and it's like we don't have to do any of that, like I don't know any of that, like let's just let's get on the floor and breathe. Yeah, let's do that, because it's really about the somatic, body based experience of overcoming that situation and you're right, you don't have to address it. Many people I mean many people have come up to us years later, years later, and been like hey, do you remember that one session where, like you, all the stuff came up for me emotionally and I was like screaming, crying and these noises that were coming on me that I've never experienced before? Yeah, I have to admit, when I was 12 years old, I was sexually molested.

Speaker 3: 49:42

I never told anybody about that. I just want to let you know that that one experience has changed the entire trajectory of my life. And now, years later, I finally feel confident to actually speak to it, to speak to it. So it doesn't matter what you've gone through. I truly believe our bodies has the structural, mechanical, biochemical patterns to help you heal yourself. It's evident at such a fundamental level, but you have to put yourself in the situations and the experiences to do that.

Speaker 1: 50:15

Yeah, with a safe guide, with a safe guide.

Speaker 1: 50:19

That's like, that's so huge, so huge. Well, you guys okay, I could go. I need to have you guys back on just to talk about marriage, because that are relationships, Because I love seeing that you guys are doing business and doing breathwork together. I would love to wrap this up to just have you each maybe share anything else that you haven't been able to share yet, but also something that you would tell someone who is brand new to breathwork, because that is so much of my audience. So something maybe encouraging or something that maybe you dealt with before you tried it. I would love you to just speak to that and then, yeah, let's start there.

Speaker 2: 50:55

Yeah, I really understand that it can be a scary thing where you're like, oh, I'm not so sure, I don't want to, I don't know what's going to come up.

Speaker 3: 51:03

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:03

Right, like I'm scared to like relive certain things, like I just don't want to go there. And I want you to know that if you are feeling that that, that is that it's valid and I see you in that. It's like I said, it's not necessarily the most comfy, cushy work, but what I also want you to know is that the work is always worth it. And, yes, it might be really uncomfortable to grow and to change. Growth is uncomfortable, but so is staying the same. Choose your heart. It's choose your heart, choose your discomfort. So you could just like well, I'm just not going to do breath work, I'm not going to go there and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. Well, how has that been working out?

Speaker 3: 51:50

How has that been?

Speaker 2: 51:51

for you and if you're not liking it or you know like, maybe, like what I was sharing is like, I know I meant for more, I know there's more. If you know that deep down, then you got to. Just you got to see yourself at that fork in the road and you can either go left or you can go right and you're going to either choose growth, go left, or you can choose to stay sane and go right.

Speaker 2: 52:16

So, I like, I want you to like, see yourself at that fork in the road and choose your heart.

Speaker 1: 52:21

Yeah, and then that's the key word is is even if you think you're not doing something, you're doing something and you're making a choice. We're making a choice every day. So at least with breathwork, it can be an intentional choice in a safe environment, to connect to your body, to connect to your heart, to connect to your intuition. I love that. I love that. Thank you for saying that yeah, yeah, corey, what about you?

Speaker 3: 52:46

Yeah, I think the most important thing is really talking about breathwork from the context of the quality of your life, and I think the quality of your life is based upon the quality of your thoughts right, we hear about that from all sorts of self development courses but it's also based upon the quality of your emotions, and emotions are the language to the body, and why breathwork is such a beautiful gateway to you. Choosing the emotions and the quality of them within your body is because how you breathe is tied directly to your emotions and your emotions are tied directly to your breath. There's been a ton of research around this and so, without knowing it, you right now are feeling a certain emotion, especially if it's like more of like a negative emotion, a neutral emotion, not that great emotion. You're going to be breathing in a very particular pattern. That corn coincides with that and reaffirms that to your body.

Speaker 3: 53:40

Emotion determines your breath. Well, you can flip that on your on its head, and that's what we do with the reset. Breathwork is, you can breathe in a very strong, confident, intentional pattern over and, over and over again and produce a very strong positive emotion that then will impact your body, literally. Your breath can determine the types of emotions that you feel within your body. And you do that enough over and over and over again, you're going to end up as a new human being.

Speaker 1: 54:09

That's awesome and I can again attest to those studies because I saw them in my breathwork facilitator training and it was. It's real, you guys, it is. That is absolutely real. Dr Corey and Jess, you guys, I'm so grateful for your time and for pouring into my community. I would love for you guys to just share what you have going on, because I do know I already know a handful of my listeners live in the San Diego area, so I would love you to share what specifically is coming up for you and how they can get more into your community and your space, because it's just been such a gift to my life, so oh, I love that.

Speaker 2: 54:42

Thank you for opening up that space. And now for those who are wanting to dive deeper or be a part of our community, you are in San Diego. We do host a special breathwork events Occasionally, and we have our biggest one coming up on December 2nd is a breathwork and beats event. So we're combining, really creating an immersive journey through breath and through music. We're bringing in DJ Taz Rashid, who is an international yoga meditation DJ. He's going to be a part of the world performance for the biggest spiritual and wellness festival, so he's going to be creating this really beautiful sound experience. And they're also bringing in Monique Benabu, who's been on the voice. She's a great vocalist and she's going to be there as well singing and performing, and so it's going to be a really special experience in little Italy, in San Diego.

Speaker 2: 55:30

But if you're like, hey, that sounds awesome, but I'm not in the area and I can't make it out for that weekend, we do have some people that are coming from all over, but we also do monthly online breathwork experiences as well. Yeah, on our, on our website and to be and I. What I love about that is that we feel from all over the world we can come together. You know beyond zoom and you know you've done this. You know the art teacher training. It's all virtual right and yeah people can well.

Speaker 2: 55:55

If it's on zoom, it's online, it's going to be as powerful and I think you yes, oh my gosh, yes, and you guys have.

Speaker 1: 56:01

you have to try to be, you have to do one time every single person listening to this you have to be led by Dr Cory and Jess. It is an incredibly special experience because I think to what just said. I mean, dr Cory, I know you're intuitive, but Jess is very intuitive and and can so often speak, speak with with just by watching your body. She can, she knows and, and so I have always felt, when I am in the space with you guys getting breathwork, that it's very, even though I'm in a group setting, that it is that you guys are talking to me, and so it's just an incredible experience. So I will post all of the different ways in the show notes that people can try or can can check you guys out. Dr Cory, was there anything we missed?

Speaker 3: 56:43

I don't think so, oh Instagram.

Speaker 1: 56:45

Yeah, Instagram underscore yeah yeah, the healing couple. Yes, I will absolutely put that on there. And then they have another really incredible eight week program called the reset program. I don't know if you want to speak to that, or or.

Speaker 2: 57:01

Sure thing. Yeah, so it's a eight week live group breathwork programs. If you're like, okay, I'm ready to take that deep dive, like I don't want to just come to like one class and just like one journey because they're sharing earlier, like when you can practice the breath consistently, that's when your whole life will really really integrate this work into all areas of your life, whether it's your physical health, relationships, money I mean all of it business, your career, and so the reset is eight weeks. So we're going to. We come together every single week and we call it the reset for a reason. It's like you will press a big, giant reset button on your entire life, and so we only run that twice a year. So if you are interested, we do have the waitlist open so you can sign up and at least get more information and then be the first to know when it opens up next spring.

Speaker 1: 57:47

Yes, and anyone listening you guys can reach out and ask me about it. I got the privilege of being a part of it in their breathwork facilitator program, so that that is awesome. You guys have given us a lot of information to reflect on and hopefully the people listening are feeling that stirring and your and and desire to just try it because it's incredibly safe and it's an incredible experience. So thank you both for your time and your mentorship and I'm just so grateful.

Speaker 2: 58:14

Thank you.

Speaker 3: 58:14

Thank you.

Speaker 1: 58:19

Wow, wow, wow, wow. I hope you guys learned something new in this interview and I hope, if nothing else, it has sparked your curiosity to try the reset breathwork for yourself. I have an exclusive offer for Black Friday and the holiday season. I am offering a virtual breathwork class with only $27. You can click the link below and get registered and come and join us.

Speaker 1: 58:42

It's going to be held on December 7 at 7 30pm Eastern Standard Time, and the theme for this journey is letting go of what no longer serves you. What a great way to end 2023 and start 2024 on a on a good note, because I think often, as Dr Corey said, we focus so much on what we don't want, who we don't want to be, that we never actually move through the entire experience where we can bring our attention and energy towards where we want to be. And so, in this journey, my hope is that we can close that chapter on who you no longer want to be and what is keeping you back, and truly, truly, truly let that go once and for all. So it's going to be a powerful journey. I'm so excited to lead and facilitate this and I hope you will join me. Hope to see you there. Have a great week.